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Abandoned

23
  • Alice G C 107169
  • Anzac (Anzac K)
  • Colonel Carry
  • Ella Ross (Gipsey) C 77589
  • Fort Erie Tug
  • Gargantua C 122435 (D.C. Whitner US 157075)
  • George Carpenter US 39388
  • Hiawatha C 72982
  • HMS Newash
  • HMS Tecumseh
  • J.B. Comstock US 76941
  • J.M. Diver C C116394(B.W. Alderich US 2701)
  • Jacquiline
  • Jennie Rumball
  • Lothair & Edward S Pease
  • Nowocton
  • Pleasure boat and Wreckage -Spanish ON
  • St. Joseph (Frank B. Stevens)
  • Traveller (G. R. Gray II) US 102463
  • Wahnapitea
  • Western Star (1854)
  • William Treat US 26170
  • Yankee US 27625

Ashore

19
  • Ark C 72957
  • B.B. Buckhout C 126059
  • Belle (1850)
  • Cameronian (1863)
  • Castalia US 4270
  • Daniel Boone (1855)
  • India C 107735
  • Isabella Ainslie
  • J.B. Comstock US 76941
  • J.F. Card US 12778
  • Lucy Auchard (Daniel Webster)
  • Maria Love (USS Clematis)US 5396
  • Michigan C 98904
  • Olga US 155029
  • Samuel Amsden (Sam Amsden)
  • Samuel T. Atwater (S.T. Atwater)
  • Starling
  • Western Star (1854)
  • Yankee US 27625

Burnt at Dock

10
  • Baltic (Frances Smith)C 92310
  • Bob Foote
  • City Of Midland C 97111
  • Michipicoten C 94843 (E.K. Roberts, City of Windsor)
  • P.M. Campbell C 94684
  • Robert K
  • Swan US 57928
  • Tecumseh C 80774
  • Tempest (Tempest 2nd ,Tempest No. 2)US 145105
  • Winona C 94717

Capsized

1
  • Jennie Graham (1871)

Collision

5
  • Ann Hartley C 52287 (Nicolet, I.L. Tucker, J.L. Tucker)
  • Annie Watt C 85326
  • Empire State
  • F.T. Barney (1856)
  • Fannie Tuthill(spelled Tuttle) US 120130

Destroyed at (Dock, Breakwater, Harbour)

1
  • Ann Maria (Anna Maria, Annie Maria) US 387

Dismantled/Dynamited/Scrapped in Place

2
  • Canadian (Canadian Lily)
  • City Of Meaford C 117082

Explosion (Boiler, Gas, Dynamite)

1
  • James Reid (Protector) C 116398

Fire

27
  • Advance C 90775
  • Aztec (1889) US 106627
  • Baltic (Frances Smith)C 92310
  • C.M. Bowman
  • City Of Collingwood (1893)
  • City Of Genoa US 126897
  • City Of Meaford C 117082
  • Collingwood (1874)
  • E.K. Roberts (City of Windsor, Michipicoten)
  • Ella Ross (Gipsey) C 77589
  • Emma E. Thompson
  • Freddie Adams C 122080
  • Joe (1881)
  • John & Alice
  • Michipicoten C 94843 (E.K. Roberts, City of Windsor)
  • Minnie Hall C 90696 (Minitaga?)
  • Northern Belle (Gladys) (J.S. Estabrook) C 71111
  • P.M. Campbell C 94684
  • Pfohl (St Paul) US 23755
  • Porter Chamberlain US 150067
  • Reliever (Germanic)C 122417
  • Sailor Queen (John J. Noble) C107136
  • Screamer (1922)
  • Telegram C 85497
  • Truant C 92739
  • Wauseda II C 158472
  • Wauwona (Wawona) C 126055

Located but Unidentified

3
  • Fort Erie Tug
  • Hennepin Point Wreck
  • Labour Day

Lost (Still Missing)

2
  • Abigail US 368
  • George Carpenter US 39388

Pounded to Pieces

9
  • City Of Grand Rapids US/C 125743
  • Colonel Bracket
  • Daniel Boone (1855)
  • Eureka US 116578 (Canada C 100392, Schilde)
  • Jane C. Woodruff C 88635
  • Maria Love (USS Clematis)US 5396
  • Mary Watson (1853)
  • Michigan C 98904
  • Tecumseh (1862)

Scuttled

18
  • Abercorn US 105361
  • Bavaria C72595
  • Canadian (Canadian Lily)
  • Caroline Rose (1940)
  • Chattanooga US 127255
  • City Of Genoa US 126897
  • Harold B. Phillips C 95857 (George W. Lormer, Mary Virginia)
  • J.M. Diver C C116394(B.W. Alderich US 2701)
  • J.W. Steinhoff (Queen City, Canada) C 71101
  • M.J. Low
  • Niagara II(Rideaulite, Imperial Lachine, Niagara, W.M. Edington) C 155286
  • Norman P. Clement C 146255 (William H. Reid)
  • Olga (Sandusky) US 115141
  • R.C. Brittain US 110337/C 100125
  • Sailor Queen (John J. Noble) C107136
  • Screamer (1922)
  • The Tugs (John & Alice, Bob Foote, Robert K, Alice G)
  • Wilma Ann (1932)

Storm

15
  • Abigal US 368
  • Amazon (1837)
  • Amelia (1836)
  • Arabia (1852)
  • Argus (Lewis Woodruff) US 200211
  • Ark (E.K. Collins)
  • Asia (1873)
  • Athens US 107276
  • H.J. Webb (1869)
  • H.N. Todman (N.H. Todman)C 80951
  • Jane Miller C 78022
  • Kaliyuga (1887)
  • Netta Weaver (Nettie Weaver, Nett Weaver) US 18089
  • S.D. Hungerford US 22553
  • Sun (c1870)

Stranded/Grounded

19
  • American Union US 307
  • Avon Voyager II (Willingate, Thomas V. Hollett, Avalon Voyager) C 177073
  • Castalia US 4270
  • Cavalier (1867)
  • City Of Cleveland US 126033
  • Forest City US 9914
  • H.B. Bishop (Henry C. Bishop)
  • H.N. Todman (N.H. Todman)C 80951
  • Huron (pre1871)
  • Iroquois (Simcoe, North, Mary Ward)
  • James C King US 13871
  • Jennie Rumball
  • Joyland C138108 (William A. Haskell US 81025).
  • Mary Ward (1865)
  • Newaygo (1890)
  • Philo Scoville (Scoville, Philo – Midland Rover) US 19620
  • Porter Chamberlain US 150067
  • Tecumseh (1862)
  • Telegram C 85497

Sunk for a Breakwater or Dock

1
  • Chattanooga US 127255

Sunk/Foundered

32
  • Ada (1857)
  • Africa C 92285
  • Alice Hackett (pre-1828)
  • Alva D C 122420
  • Anne (1854)
  • Anne Winslow (Annie Winslow)
  • Arabia (1852)
  • Blanche Shelby C 71225
  • C.M. Bowman
  • Charles C. Ryan(Lake Ontario) US 126622
  • City Of Port Huron (Duluth, City Of Cheboygan)
  • Dolphin
  • Dragon US 6103
  • Fred Davidson
  • Georgian C 890596
  • Gold Hunter (1862)
  • J. H. Jones C 90769
  • Jacques Cartier C 71253
  • Jane Miller C 78022
  • John & Alex (1924)
  • Kaliyuga (1887)
  • M. L. Breck (Marion L. Breck)
  • North Wind
  • S.W. Gee (Yale, Columbia)
  • Sun (c1870)
  • Sweepstakes (1856)
  • Tecumseh C 103691
  • Thousand Islander C 141756 (US 209906)
  • Troy (1845)
  • Truant C 92739
  • True North II
  • Waome (Mink) C 131085

Wreck (Verified)

29
  • Ann Long (W.E. Gladstone) C 78026
  • Arabia (1852)
  • Avon Voyager II (Willingate, Thomas V. Hollett, Avalon Voyager) C 177073
  • Beaverstone
  • Bob Foote
  • Cameronian (1863)
  • Caroline Rose (1940)
  • Chattanooga US 127255
  • Collingwood (1874)
  • Eureka US 116578 (Canada C 100392, Schilde)
  • Forest City US 9914
  • Fort Erie Tug
  • Hennepin Point Wreck
  • Isabella Ainslie
  • James C King US 13871
  • John & Alex (1924)
  • John & Alice
  • Joyland C138108 (William A. Haskell US 81025).
  • Labour Day
  • Luckport (Magnolia)
  • M. L. Breck (Marion L. Breck)
  • Mapledawn (Manola)
  • Niagara II(Rideaulite, Imperial Lachine, Niagara, W.M. Edington) C 155286
  • Pleasure boat and Wreckage -Spanish ON
  • Tecumseh C 103691
  • The Tugs (John & Alice, Bob Foote, Robert K, Alice G)
  • Waome (Mink) C 131085
  • Waubuno (1865)
  • Winslow US 26243

Wrecked

8
  • Albert Wright (Annie Pratt, Ahteek) C 77915
  • Azov
  • Butcher's Boy (Hannah B., A.H. Morrison) C 92612
  • Dakota (1885)
  • H.N. Todman (N.H. Todman)C 80951
  • Mary Ward (1865)
  • Mary Watson (1853)
  • Starling
  • Home
  • Docs
  • Canadian Huron
  • Fire
  • John & Alice

Identification & Site Information

  • Name: John & Alice
  • Type: Wooden Fishing Tug
  • Build Year & Location: 1924, Port Dover, Ontario
  • Service: Fishing Tug, supporting local fishing industries
  • Fate: Burned and sank on December 6, 1947
  • Coordinates & Location: Exact wreck coordinates not documented; presumed in waters near Port Dover or operating range.

Vessel Type Description

The John & Alice was a typical wooden fishing Tug built in the early 20th century. Such vessels were essential to local economies, designed for efficient operation in the Great Lakes’ often challenging conditions. Fishing tugs like this were equipped to handle gill nets and other commercial fishing gear, making them vital to supporting the livelihoods of coastal communities.

History

The John & Alice was constructed in 1924 in Port Dover, Ontario, a hub for fishing and shipbuilding. For over two decades, it played a crucial role in sustaining the fishing industry along the north shore of Lake Erie. The vessel supported the local economy by facilitating large-scale fish hauls, ensuring supply to markets and processors. Fishing tugs of this era were known for their durability and operational efficiency, which the John & Alice exemplified.

On December 6, 1947, the John & Alice met a tragic end when it caught fire. The blaze ultimately led to its sinking. While the circumstances surrounding the fire remain unclear, such incidents were not uncommon for wooden vessels, especially in the colder months when heating systems onboard could pose a risk. Despite its loss, there were no reports of fatalities, indicating the crew managed to escape safely.

Final Disposition

The remains of the John & Alice are believed to rest in the waters near Port Dover or within its historical operating area. Its precise wreck site has not been documented or widely explored, leaving its current state unknown. It is likely heavily deteriorated, as wooden vessels degrade more rapidly in aquatic environments compared to metal-hulled ships.

Legacy

The John & Alice remains a part of the rich maritime history of Lake Erie, highlighting the critical role of fishing tugs in the region’s development. Its service life exemplified the resilience and dedication of the local fishing industry. While the vessel itself may be lost to time, its contributions to the local economy and community are remembered.

Resources & Links

  • Port Dover Harbour Museum: Historical records and photographs of fishing tugs from the area may provide further insights.
  • Maritime History of the Great Lakes Database: For potential documentation on the John & Alice.
  • Save Ontario Shipwrecks: For any diving or exploration reports near Port Dover that may reference the wreck.

Keywords

#FishingTug #JohnAndAlice #PortDover #GreatLakesHistory #MaritimeHeritage #LakeErieShipwrecks #FishingIndustry #WoodenVessels

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